tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post8647190422719368193..comments2023-04-26T10:22:33.141+01:00Comments on The Road to "Elder" ado: Calvin on PrayerUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post-88604381011141009572009-05-27T12:33:07.014+01:002009-05-27T12:33:07.014+01:00More than half of the Lord's Prayer is petitioning...More than half of the Lord's Prayer is petitioning requests when you think about it.<br /><br />Your Kingdom come<br />Your Will be done<br />Give us our daily bread<br />Forgive us our sins<br />Lead us away from temptation<br />Deliver us from the evil one<br /><br />Come, do, give, forgive, lead, deliver.<br /><br />6 different asks.<br /><br /><I>Not that I'd want to diss Calvin on a Newfrontiers blog.</I>Oh, but you do really, don't you? I mean who wouldn't? ;)Jongudmundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13355906920547912762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post-66680838262275993402009-05-21T19:04:27.819+01:002009-05-21T19:04:27.819+01:00"How many of the statements / sentences in the Lor..."How many of the statements / sentences in the Lord's prayer fit those categories?"<br /><br />About half? <br /><br />I see your point though. Prayer should be more than a shopping list. However, I think the great thing about prayer is that God listens to our requests. So we've got a great opportunity to receive, and I think we're sometimes in danger of not asking God for stuff (not material things) because we think we're being greedy, when actually he wants us to ask Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post-21385072943759381172009-05-21T12:00:03.846+01:002009-05-21T12:00:03.846+01:00I think the point is that prayer is not explaining...I think the point is that prayer is not explaining the unknown, begging, or trying to sell something.<br /><br /><I>Most instances of prayer in the new testament (I just looked on bible gateway) are about petition/supplication/intercession</I>How many of the statements / sentences in the Lord's prayer fit those categories?<br /><br />I think the point being made is that prayer is not just the shopping list it is so often reduced to.Blue, with a hint of amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17689914726284208496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post-67414763694058952622009-05-21T10:35:48.948+01:002009-05-21T10:35:48.948+01:00Very profound, but I'm not sure I agree. I guess i...Very profound, but I'm not sure I agree. I guess it depends what you mean by prayer. Most instances of prayer in the new testament (I just looked on bible gateway) are about petition/supplication/intercession. <br />Calvin seems to be waffling that prayer is about relationship and self-edification, which I'd suggest are by-products of prayer, not the focus. <br /><br />Not that I'd want to diss Calvin on a Newfrontiers blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5291591634697141288.post-22619722079300675362009-05-21T10:33:59.797+01:002009-05-21T10:33:59.797+01:00The first few pages of Calvin on prayer has to be ...The first few pages of Calvin on prayer has to be among the best material in The Institutes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02894433115379089423noreply@blogger.com